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K. Miller
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Posted - 09 Feb 2004 :  12:50:43  Show Profile  Visit K. Miller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In Dynamic HTML Editor it's often desirable to stack graphics on graphics, or Labels onto graphics; but the mouse only responds to the topmost object. This sometimes creates problems.

For example, Labels prevent graphics from being used effectively as buttons. Wherever a Label is placed over a graphic the mouse can't "see" it through the Label box. So the graphic isn't suitable as a button because part of it is "dead" to mouse rollovers and clicks. Current workarounds (v1.7) are -
  • use a button object instead of a graphic (too limited)

  • make the Label itself a link (too small and unattractive)

  • or add text in a paint program before importing the graphic (too inconvenient for updating, especially with Dynamic HTML Editor graphics).
Can you create a new "mouse-through" property for objects? To follow current interface convention, it might be called "Visible to mouse - True/False". It would make the mouse ignore the object, and so recognize the (entire) graphic immediately beneath it. This would make Dynamic HTML Editor much more flexible for designing menus in particular.

Or is there some other way to accomplish this?

Karl

Edited by - K. Miller on 10 Apr 2004 11:42:20

K. Miller
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 :  11:35:59  Show Profile  Visit K. Miller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Davide,

Your features list for DHE2 doesn't seem to address the "dead-graphics" problem I raised in my 9 Feb/04 post here.

Could you include a fix for this in v2?

Karl
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s.dav
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  08:48:14  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by K. Miller

Davide,

Your features list for DHE2 doesn't seem to address the "dead-graphics" problem I raised in my 9 Feb/04 post here.

Could you include a fix for this in v2?

Karl



Hello K.,

excuse me if I did not reply you in a few days

I've thought a long time for this problem but I think that
a property called "mouse-through" it is not the right way to follow for solve this problem.
Some other programs permit to create some graphic buttons and using them (like Fireworks).
Maybe in a newer version I'll implement that feature (but sorry, not in version 2.0)

You can use Dynamic HTML Editor 1.7 to write some text, convert it in image and apply events or links you want

Regards, Davide
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K. Miller
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  01:33:00  Show Profile  Visit K. Miller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Davide,

DHE version2 will be a very rich program, and it would be unfortunate if it still suffers from text interfering with graphics-mousing.

But I hadn't thought of the workaround you suggested - making a topmost text label into a graphic. If nothing else, I'd suggest that this approach be described in the program documentation.

Possibly you might also consider as a new feature arbitrary mousing "zones" - invisible shapes that define screen hotspots, which can be placed anywhere, and given all normal properties. This would also allow image mapping. I see the v2 features list includes "transparency". Will it let a graphic object be 100% transparent (invisible)? If so, that may accomplish what I'm referring to.

Karl
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s.dav
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  08:48:21  Show Profile  Visit s.dav's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by K. Miller

[...]

This would also allow image mapping. I see the v2 features list includes "transparency". Will it let a graphic object be 100% transparent (invisible)? If so, that may accomplish what I'm referring to.

Karl



In Dynamic HTML Editor v.2.0 you can create completely transparent images/rectangles so you can use them to map parts of image (good idea )
That version will support also the ability to associate a map to a picture ...
But sorry v.2.0 can't create HTML maps (I've no time for this [2 :-((])

Regards, Davide
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K. Miller
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  10:55:07  Show Profile  Visit K. Miller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Davide,

Excellent. "Invisible" graphics will let a user place control/interaction devices/zones anywhere!

A built-in HTML image mapper would be nice, but I agree many of your other planned features are much more important. If anyone really needs this feature, there are a number of freeware and shareware programs they can use.

Karl

Edited by - K. Miller on 16 Apr 2004 10:56:14
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